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Created Feb 10, 2025 by Alex Garcia@alexh364930999Maintainer

OpenAI has Little Legal Recourse against DeepSeek, Tech Law Experts Say


OpenAI and the White House have implicated DeepSeek of utilizing ChatGPT to cheaply train its brand-new chatbot.
- Experts in tech law say OpenAI has little recourse under intellectual home and agreement law.
- of use may apply however are mostly unenforceable, they state.
This week, OpenAI and the White House implicated DeepSeek of something comparable to theft.

In a flurry of press statements, they said the Chinese upstart had bombarded OpenAI's chatbots with queries and hoovered up the resulting data trove to rapidly and cheaply train a design that's now almost as great.

The Trump administration's leading AI czar stated this training process, called "distilling," amounted to copyright theft. OpenAI, meanwhile, informed Business Insider and other outlets that it's examining whether "DeepSeek may have inappropriately distilled our designs."

OpenAI is not saying whether the business prepares to pursue legal action, rather promising what a representative described "aggressive, proactive countermeasures to safeguard our technology."

But could it? Could it take legal action against DeepSeek on "you stole our content" grounds, just like the premises OpenAI was itself took legal action against on in an ongoing copyright claim filed in 2023 by The New York City Times and other news outlets?

BI presented this concern to professionals in technology law, who said difficult DeepSeek in the courts would be an uphill fight for OpenAI now that the content-appropriation shoe is on the other foot.

OpenAI would have a tough time proving an intellectual home or copyright claim, freechat.mytakeonit.org these legal representatives said.

"The concern is whether ChatGPT outputs" - indicating the answers it produces in response to inquiries - "are copyrightable at all," Mason Kortz of Harvard Law School said.

That's due to the fact that it's uncertain whether the answers ChatGPT spits out certify as "creativity," he said.

"There's a teaching that says innovative expression is copyrightable, but facts and concepts are not," Kortz, who teaches at Harvard's Cyberlaw Clinic, said.

"There's a substantial concern in intellectual property law today about whether the outputs of a generative AI can ever constitute imaginative expression or if they are always unguarded realities," he added.

Could OpenAI roll those dice anyway and claim that its outputs are secured?

That's not likely, genbecle.com the lawyers stated.

OpenAI is already on the record in The New york city Times' copyright case arguing that training AI is an allowable "reasonable usage" exception to copyright protection.

If they do a 180 and tell DeepSeek that training is not a reasonable usage, "that may come back to sort of bite them," Kortz said. "DeepSeek could say, 'Hey, weren't you just stating that training is reasonable usage?'"

There may be a distinction between the Times and DeepSeek cases, Kortz included.

"Maybe it's more transformative to turn news posts into a model" - as the Times implicates OpenAI of doing - "than it is to turn outputs of a design into another design," as DeepSeek is said to have done, Kortz said.

"But this still puts OpenAI in a pretty predicament with regard to the line it's been toeing regarding reasonable usage," he added.

A breach-of-contract claim is more most likely

A breach-of-contract suit is much likelier than an IP-based lawsuit, though it features its own set of problems, stated Anupam Chander, who teaches technology law at Georgetown University.

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The regards to service for Big Tech chatbots like those developed by OpenAI and Anthropic forbid using their content as training fodder for a completing AI design.

"So perhaps that's the lawsuit you may perhaps bring - a contract-based claim, not an IP-based claim," Chander said.

"Not, 'You copied something from me,' however that you gained from my model to do something that you were not permitted to do under our agreement."

There may be a drawback, utahsyardsale.com Chander and Kortz stated. OpenAI's regards to service need that most claims be dealt with through arbitration, orcz.com not claims. There's an exception for suits "to stop unapproved use or abuse of the Services or intellectual home infringement or misappropriation."

There's a larger drawback, however, experts said.

"You need to know that the brilliant scholar Mark Lemley and a coauthor argue that AI regards to use are likely unenforceable," Chander said. He was describing a January 10 paper, "The Mirage of Artificial Intelligence Regards To Use Restrictions," by Stanford Law's Mark A. Lemley and Peter Henderson of Princeton University's Center for Information Technology Policy.

To date, "no model developer has actually tried to impose these terms with financial charges or injunctive relief," the paper says.

"This is most likely for excellent reason: we think that the legal enforceability of these licenses is questionable," it adds. That's in part since model outputs "are largely not copyrightable" and because laws like the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act "deal minimal recourse," it states.

"I believe they are most likely unenforceable," Lemley told BI of OpenAI's terms of service, "due to the fact that DeepSeek didn't take anything copyrighted by OpenAI and since courts generally will not enforce contracts not to compete in the lack of an IP right that would avoid that competitors."

Lawsuits between celebrations in different nations, each with its own legal and enforcement systems, are constantly tricky, accc.rcec.sinica.edu.tw Kortz said.

Even if OpenAI cleared all the above obstacles and won a judgment from an US court or arbitrator, "in order to get DeepSeek to turn over cash or stop doing what it's doing, the enforcement would boil down to the Chinese legal system," he stated.

Here, OpenAI would be at the grace of another exceptionally complex area of law - the enforcement of foreign judgments and the balancing of individual and business rights and nationwide sovereignty - that stretches back to before the starting of the US.

"So this is, a long, made complex, laden procedure," Kortz included.

Could OpenAI have secured itself better from a distilling incursion?

"They could have utilized technical procedures to obstruct repeated access to their website," Lemley said. "But doing so would also interfere with typical customers."

He included: "I do not believe they could, or should, have a valid legal claim against the searching of uncopyrightable details from a public website."

Representatives for DeepSeek did not immediately react to a request for remark.

"We understand that groups in the PRC are actively working to utilize techniques, including what's referred to as distillation, to try to reproduce sophisticated U.S. AI models," Rhianna Donaldson, an OpenAI representative, told BI in an emailed statement.

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